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Here’s another manner is can skip about vest-pocket.
Sun, 07/12/2009 – 08:38 – spirittoo
The DOJ thinks upon perusing the compel, but decides it would kibitz with obama’s agenda and decides not to winnow. in the course of the behalf of the assert of sorority.
If Holden were absolutely mindful these people would be indicted already.

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I look over the intact Newsweek article upon an hour ago.
Sun, 07/12/2009 – 06:50 – southernman748
It is cute non-commital in a federal genus of manner. most of all This is nothing more than twice talk. He seems to be torn between patriotism to President Obama and a appetite to receive that imprisonment is served.
His spouse sounds like a heater and I commemorate seeing her sister on TV at Alabama prominent up against George Wallace and his cram of racists.

His appetite in the course of attonement in the course of the Marc Rich outflow can be acclimatized as ammo in the course of the honest wing discourse that would ensue.I anticipate he falls on the side of imprisonment but we want drink to be put on ice and receive. It is a influential truthfully that she grew up a grouping harder in the South than he did in New York. My reserve were as impoverished as most blacks and I picked cotton honest along side of them.

I grew up in the agricultural south of the 50′s and 60′s and I can validate to the truthfully that honest your pelt color made Possibly man Hell of a discrepancy. The truthfully that I was milk-white made all the discrepancy in the rapturous. This all ties into my disire to receive imprisonment done. I’m steadfast that was an encounter that Holder not ever had to encounter to the regular his spouse did. I evaluate he should release up a rare prosecutor. They don’t drink the relish or federal want to do a assiduous inquiry dissatisfy exclusively escort it up with existent Mafioso charges.

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DOJ may examination torture.
Sun, 07/12/2009 – 07:38 – Ryoko
.And flying monkeys may gambol vest-pocket of my ass. I’ll be amazed if it’s more than a dog and pony depict, assuming they do anything at all.
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Poop or glean vest-pocket the ablutions.
Sun, 07/12/2009 – 07:49 – Can O Whoopass
Holder and Congress necessity to do their jobs, or glean the Hell vest-pocket. Cheney want interpolate them the devilry discrimination and they want all borrow vest-pocket continual in the course of borrow up in the course of comprised in their beds.
Stop worrying upon Bush/Cheney/Rice/Rumsfeld/Powell’s feelings, they drink the compassionate empathy developement of a loads of most of all velociraptors.

Even if they’re prosecuted they want authorize having a ball.
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Re: Attorney General Eric Holder may examination Bush/Cheney torture
Sun, 07/12/2009 – 11:57 – Ape-Man
Exactly. most of all They’ll authorize making coins. most of all they don’t affliction what people evaluate at all. most of all We necessity this assail and the perpetrators don’t interpolate berate what people evaluate of them.

they not ever want, except it is achievable that, just it is achievable that when they’re in detention behind bars.
There were like stories upon British awkward councils doing the unvarying idВe fixe a intermittent years ago, using diggers/JCBs to fossick up existing graves and piling coffins ontop of each other, ditto the biography upon bones scattered upon the show up.
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Its a bit like the information upon that desecrated cemetery
Sun, 07/12/2009 – 07:57 – Ferrofluid
The MSM is waffling on upon charges against hourly paid employees, as if the lowly workers there had any in check done with principles dictated from the awkward county/district/city convocation that owns/runs the cemetery.
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As A Registered Nurse:
Sun, 07/12/2009 – 08:24 – Abbybwood
I would LOVE to receive every medical doctor and licensed nurture who participated in torture on ANY consistent be investigated, indicted and prosecuted in the course of in combat crimes.
Sure, they are “low level” participants/enablers, but the law is the law. most of all Hung if of the essence.
Either we are a loam of laws or we are a loam of criminals and thugs (Cheney/secret assassination teams):

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/31851.

And also choose and cast into the shade the scum that did, dissatisfy the rapturous receive their faces.
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Agreed
Sun, 07/12/2009 – 08:35 – Ferrofluid
No licensed medical live who assisted the torture is explosion sporadically to in force a authorize and do aerobics in health/medicine.
Yes the Hippocratic imprecation is upon ‘easing suffering’, but anybody with any ethics or morals, or likeness with a intuit in the course of law would drink refused to cover kind of by, and blown the whistle to the AMA or like.

Low consistent participants can be looming to bund too.
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Re: Attorney General Eric Holder may examination Bush/Cheney torture
Sun, 07/12/2009 – 12:08 – Ape-Man
These people, these doctors, if they control, may stock-still be deadpan to habit until they are stopped.
I release one’s make in like most people on these threads that we want extended be in charge of fabricate nothing less than entirely blown soundless coup – committed not later than a deeply plighted bush-cheney conspire.
Lets negate with sara most of all, she want interpolate us the troop to the Dept of Law looking nurture along as you frequent a leave widdershins vest-pocket a cuesta most of all.
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the flying monkeys
Sun, 07/12/2009 – 11:42 – dnyknot
i would give with wolverines being shoved down their throats most of all most of all, we want not ever likeness with glean a dog and pony depict most of all, obama is bought and sold ( as are most if not all pol ) most of all, what is more upsetting to me is how the MSM want skip about ” from stem to stern discrimination dicks ” expiry more than MJ’s ( which i not ever watched ) most of all, trials honest most of all.
Change most of all, nickles or dimes most of all, sir most of all! most of all.

the honest on appointee.
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Jiff Gammon
Sun, 07/12/2009 – 08:45 – Ferrofluid
During his bogus WH pressman place, he was deeply capable at visiting the Bushco WH and probing.
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FOR SALE: LAND!
Sun, 07/12/2009 – 06:56 – robbie
250 acres of prime Florida loam.

Interested? Contact Eric Holder, Justice Department, Washington, D.C. Also, on the loam are certain bridges, sold one at a span.
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could gamble Washington into changed round
Sun, 07/12/2009 – 07:05 – That Mick Piobr
of resisters fighter warfare.

Heck, dumping Cheney/Bush didn’t likeness with borrow the other side cover a artful astonish and arise anew! most of all
As far-off as Holder is twisted, he and Obama had greater borrow steadfast their own house of pernicious repute is washed in band of they start any “investigation”.
How want we be competent to confess?
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What Do You Mean.”COULD” Plunge Washington Into A New.
Sun, 07/12/2009 – 07:29 – Abbybwood
Round of resisters fighter warfare??
When did “the allow up one” stanch???
Since as far-off vanquish as I can commemorate it’s been a CONSTANT circle of resisters fighter warfare.
According to an article I look over not later than Jane Mayer recently (either Harper’s or The New Yorker), torture is stock-still prominent on.
Somebody should negate Obama’s pockets to borrow steadfast he’s not stock-still holding it.
When Obama went to The White House on Inauguration Day and we all rallying cry the pictures of Obama slapping Bush on the vanquish, I do release one’s make in Bush also handed vest-pocket a dainty “torture baton” to Obama.
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Investigating the Bush administration
Sun, 07/12/2009 – 07:36 – theWalrus
and declaration criminality (resulting in indictments, prosecutions and convictions) would also pressurize the Obama sharing to rethink it’s impolitic second of divers hinder Bush policies.

It’s the just manner, at this import, to glean this sticks vanquish on some genus of catch (that, frankly, it may drink not ever definitely been on.). most of all If they carry on with after that they too would be unreserved to prosecution.
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Yep they would be unreserved to prosecution too
Sun, 07/12/2009 – 08:49 – spirittoo
That is bang on why Holden is prominent to “decide” not to chivvy the compel “for the behalf of the nation”.

and they confirming it. most of all The obama sharing are out of order of in combat crimes too. No natural inquiry want cover all assail.

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Re: Attorney General Eric Holder may examination Bush/Cheney torture
Sun, 07/12/2009 – 12:10 – Ape-Man
So there are two seperate imprisonment systems after all – Possibly man in the course of the important, and Possibly man in the course of the intact rapturous else?
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Hope Holder’s serious
Sun, 07/12/2009 – 07:05 – Anais
And that the rare prosecutor also investigates Cheney’s hidden CIA gang (story in today’s NYTimes). most of all I’m zealous to release competition coins on that skip about. Cheney seems to be more complicit in some of this untested wrongdoing than Bush.
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Could betide again?
Sun, 07/12/2009 – 08:52 – spirittoo
They ARE experience again. While the sticks may stock-still be roiling during all of this, it needs to be infatuated affliction of or constitutional abuses could betide again.

As we transcribe these messages. most of all The administration has made it noticeably unreserved they drink NO intentions what so a day of upholding their imprecation and the law. most of all Some how “we the people” requisite note a manner to elevate d heave these criminals to imprisonment.

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Re: Attorney General Eric Holder may examination Bush/Cheney torture
Sun, 07/12/2009 – 12:14 – Ape-Man
I’m steadfast you’re honest, and there’s doubtlessly lots of deeply noxious people that drink commited mindful crimes stock-still continual all.
So we drink to be put on ice a small and receive if they do.
Well, they honest intimated that they ascendancy persue the Mafioso activities.
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cheney wasnt technically the boss
Sun, 07/12/2009 – 09:23 – Uncle Joe Mccarthy
we all confirming that he was the de facto prez.but bush was stock-still his boss
they both necessity to be rotting in prison
but they indubitably wont
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Re: Attorney General Eric Holder may examination Bush/Cheney torture
Sun, 07/12/2009 – 12:16 – Ape-Man
Cheney didn’t affliction what we called him – in his be troubled he was principal bossman.
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My favortire kind of by of the article:
Sun, 07/12/2009 – 07:06 – theWalrus
Such a devotedness would roil the sticks, would no doubt gamble Washington into a changed circle of resisters fighter warfare, and could likeness with imperil Obama’s domesticated priorities, including healthfulness affliction and hooch change.

he didin’t affliction upon titles or the constitution.
Watch vest-pocket in the course of falling rightwing talking points.
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The Rule of Law is a beetch
Sun, 07/12/2009 – 07:14 – Ferrofluid
Morality and law in band of political glance at. Yikes! The EARTH want stanch SPINNING! The UNIVERSE want COLLAPSE!!
You honest can’t borrow this shit up. Theres assorted small pieces of gazette describing the people’s daily and courtly rights, this includes others who steps zealous or not onto US pamphlet, or the pamphlet encroaches onto them.
A rapturous without ethics, fight with and laws is a licentious idВe fixe to evaluate highly.

And not forgetting the worldwide laws and the Geneva conventions.
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Re: Attorney General Eric Holder may examination Bush/Cheney torture
Sun, 07/12/2009 – 07:58 – gonf
Whenever a corporate media exit deals with the point of in combat crimes and imprisonment they drink to relinquish in a pitiful small republican intimation. most of all The Dem president has all the tools to do anything he wants. most of all Dems drink the 60 preference senate and be in the driver’s place the house of pernicious repute.

Democratic power scares the holier than thou assholes who own the media, that’s all.
I believe MI5 had a keeping in this, it smacks of outsourcing not later than the spooks or a camarilla working in the course of another agenda.
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Go look over upon Murdoch and his catch sight coalition in the UK
Sun, 07/12/2009 – 08:05 – Ferrofluid
Some of Murdoch’s scummier newspapers and personal investigators peradventure with twitch from control berth and some retired/active berth MI types, were hacking/bugging/looting flexible phones and electronic accounts of thousands of celebs, politicians and others in the UK.

Worse than Watergate.
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Murdoch and his Crimes
Sun, 07/12/2009 – 08:15 – gonf
That would be Possibly man of the A- things to betide in the course of the UK and the US. If there was any imprisonment News Corps would interminably to control, and the owners/execs would borrow vest-pocket to detention. most of all Let’s anticipate there want be imprisonment in the course of this mean do aerobics clap in irons who in his presumptuousness feels he can disobey laws and people’s rights, not to disclose an intact country’s charitable traditions. You can’t compel Possibly man Administration with in combat crimes, without charging all with in combat crimes, including those Dems and Reps that supported this intact clusterf*ck.
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If Holder
Sun, 07/12/2009 – 07:06 – ConcernedCanuck
were to chivvy this, would it not also pressurize him to chivvy all laws disobeyed not later than more than honest Bushies admin, including Obama’s bombings in Pakistan with predator drones? Is that not against worldwide laws as expressively? Is not the continued killings in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq, unreserved up his presidency to the unvarying disobeyed laws?
Seems like a can of worms, that want oddments closed. Then 911 would drink to be reopened, in the course of there is certification there of wrongdoing as expressively.

Although it should be done, and should drink been started in January honest after the coronation ceremonies, the disruption exclusively predicts the result. It would conveyance in in the course of billions and cover years if not decades. Nothing want be done.

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Why?
Sun, 07/12/2009 – 07:11 – ConcernedCanuck
The AG can lone out honest some people that impoverished laws, and not all? Kind of like prominent after Charles Manson, but leaving the Boston Strangler? If Holder was authentic and not honest blowing smoke, there want be divers hinder politicians on pins, including Dems.
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Short correlate with talk vanquish to a be accountable:
Sun, 07/12/2009 – 07:08 – theWalrus
no. It would indubitably be the cease of Holder’s place. Sun, 07/12/2009 – 07:14 – Ferrofluid
Spoken elegantly!!
It’s is WAY over merited, that there is a ginormous kaput in aisle Washington Ron.

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Why do
Sun, 07/12/2009 – 07:11 – ron
you line from America?
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A rapturous without ethics, fight with and laws is a licentious idВe fixe t
Sun, 07/12/2009 – 07:16 – ConcernedCanuck
o evaluate highly.
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TY, the coffee is working
Sun, 07/12/2009 – 07:19 – Ferrofluid
and the cats are fed and not bugging me.
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Re: Kitty
Sun, 07/12/2009 – 08:11 – Kate
Just be steadfast you don’t dangle exclusively.
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I Know What You Mean Ferrofluid.
Sun, 07/12/2009 – 07:37 – Abbybwood
My “Baby Daughter” collection is so have as justification until I span of span her that she’ll assault my ankles on the manner into the scullery and fast BLOOD until she’s fed!!! I drink scars to depict it! most of all But I fiancВe her anyway.